For those interested in storing components onto a stream, take a look at TWriter.WriteRootComponent and TWriter.WriteComponent. Then check out the TReader.Read... counterparts. Unfortunately, there appears to be no documentation showing HOW to use these methods properly. The docs keep mentioning the "root" component, but never clearly explain what it is or how you are suppose to use the root property to store your components. If you are interested in writing objects to the stream that are not components, I recommend doing something like the follow: type TMyObject = class(TObject) ... protected procedure SaveToStream(writer : TWriter); virtual; procedure LoadFromStream(writer : TWriter); virtual; ... end; procedure TMyObject.SaveToStream(writer : TWriter); begin with writer do begin WriteListBegin; {- write object state -} WriteListEnd; end; end; procedure TMyObject.LoadFromStream(reader : TReader); begin with reader do begin ReadListBegin; while not EndOfList do begin {- read object state -} end; ReadListEnd; end; end; Somewhere in the initialization section of the unit in which this object is declared, call RegisterObject('TMyObject'). (See RegisterObject() below.) In the main program, where you specify the file to read/write, you can do something like this: var RegisteredObjects : TStringList; procedure RegisterObject(cname : string; ctype : TClass); begin RegisteredObjects.AddObject(cname, ctype); end; procedure GetObject(cname : string) : TClass; var i : integer; begin i := RegisteredObjects.IndexOf(cname); if i > -1 then Result := TClass(RegisteredObjects.Objects[i]) else Result := nil; end; procedure SaveFile(const filename : string; objlist : TList); var stream : TFileStream; writer : TWriter; i : integer; begin stream := TFileStream.Create(filename, fmCreate or fmOpenWrite); try writer := TWriter.Create(stream, $ff); try with writer do begin WriteSignature; {marker to indicate a Delphi filer object file.} WriteListBegin; {outer list marker} for i := 0 to objlist.Count - 1 do begin WriteListBegin; {object marker} WriteString(TMyObject(objlist[i]).ClassName); TMyObject(objlist[i]).SaveToStream(writer); WriteListEnd; {object marker} end; WriteListEnd; {outer list marker} end; finally writer.Free; end; finally stream.Free; end; end; procedure OpenFile(const filename : string; objlist : TList); var stream : TFileStream; writer : TWriter; cname : string; {class name} ctype : TClass; {class type} obj : TObject; begin stream := TFileStream.Create(filename, fmOpenRead); try reader := TReader.Create(stream, $ff); try with reader do begin ReadSignature; {check Delphi filer object signature.} ReadListBegin; {outer list marker} while not EndOfList do begin ReadListBegin; {object marker} while not EndOfList do begin cname := ReadString; ctype := GetObjectClass(cname); obj := TObject(TObjectClass(ctype).Create; try obj.LoadFromStream(reader); except obj.Free; raise; end; objlist.Add(obj); end; ReadListEnd; {object marker} end; ReadListEnd; {outer list marker} end; finally reader.Free; end; finally stream.Free; end; end; Well, I don't know how far this will get you. I haven't tested ANY of this code, so who knows if it could ever possibly work. The most doubtful part is the whole dynamic instantiation taking place in LoadFromStream(). Delphi provides a bunch of great functions for registering TPersistent descendants and getting their class types from their class names, etc.: RegisterClass(), FindFieldClass(), FindClass(), GetClass(), etc. (They use it for loading components off of streams....no surprise there.) However, if your objects are not TPersistent descendants (and there's no reason they should be), then you're basically out of luck (read: "you get to write your own RegisteredClass()"). So, give this a try if you're feeling daring. Just don't come running after me with a shotgun complaining about little voices in your heads if you do. I suspect the above code will need a lot of polish before it does what is expected of it... Nonetheless, I hope you find it interesting, if nothing else. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, shoot. After a bit of research and review, I came to realize just how unnecessary all of this work with trying to store plain objects on a stream is. When I wrote up the TStream2 message back in May (only shortly after Delphi came out), I did not have a good understanding of the VCL class heirarchy. Here's a quote from the Component Writer's Guide (TPersistent): The TPersistent object is the abstract base object for all objects stored and loaded on Delphi stream objects. In addition to the methods it inherits from its ancestor, TObject, TPersistent defines three new methods: AssignTo and DefineProperties, which are protected, and Assign, which is public. The GetClass() and RegisterClass() functions work for TPersistent objects. So, after being in the dark for so long, I sat down and just took a good long look at TPersistent and other related matters. Then, after looking back at what you wanted to do, I wrote up a little program and tested it out to make sure it actually worked. Below is the result. Below I have included two units: Unit1, which is a form definition, and Unit2, which contains the TPlayer and TObjectList classes. The form (Unit1) has for buttons labelled "Create," "Save," "Load," and "Exit." Create -- create 5 TPlayers and add them to the object list Save -- save the object list to a file Load -- load the object list from a file Exit -- free the object list and exit In Unit2, the TPlayer object is declared as a TPersistent descendant and is given two methods: ReadData() and WriteData(). ReadData() -- read property data with given TReader object WriteData() -- write property data with given TWriter object The TPlayer class is registered with a call to RegisterClass in the initialization section of Unit2 when the program first begins. Also in Unit2, the TObjectList class is declared as a TList and given the methods Clear(), SaveToStream(), LoadFromStream(), SaveToFile(), and LoadFromFile(). The SaveToFile() and LoadFromFile() just create a TFileStream object and then pass it to the corresponding SaveToStream()/LoadFromStream() method, which do the actually accessing via the TFiler objects (TWriter & TReader). A destructor was also added to TObjectList to ensure that it frees the items in the list when it is destroyed. I think it would be a good idea to go back into the TObjectList and add a new kind of Items property that is specifically typed as TPersistent or TObject instead of just Pointer since many of the operations we perform on its Items property could cause problems if a non-object were accidentally stored in the list. It would also reduce the need for all of the extra type casting. Anyhow, here are the two units that worked for me. Let me know what you think. --Mark Johnson --------------------------------- UNIT1.PAS --------------------------------- unit Unit1; interface uses SysUtils, WinTypes, WinProcs, Messages, Classes, Graphics, Controls, Forms, Dialogs, StdCtrls; type TForm1 = class(TForm) btnCreate: TButton; btnSave: TButton; btnLoad: TButton; btnExit: TButton; procedure btnCreateClick(Sender: TObject); procedure btnSaveClick(Sender: TObject); procedure btnLoadClick(Sender: TObject); procedure btnExitClick(Sender: TObject); private { Private declarations } public { Public declarations } end; var Form1: TForm1; implementation {$R *.DFM} uses Unit2; const ObjFilename = 'C:\players.dat'; var objList : TObjectList; procedure TForm1.btnCreateClick(Sender: TObject); var player : TPlayer; i : integer; begin {Creates five players and adds them to ObjList} objList.Clear; for i := 1 to 5 do begin player := TPlayer.Create; try with player do begin Name := 'Name' + IntToStr(i); EmpireName := 'EmpireName' + IntToStr(i); Wins := i; Losses := 5 - i; Ranking := 6 - i; end; objList.Add(player); except player.Free; raise; end; end; end; procedure TForm1.btnSaveClick(Sender: TObject); begin {Stores objList to file} objList.SaveToFile(ObjFilename); end; procedure TForm1.btnLoadClick(Sender: TObject); begin {Loads objList from file} objList.LoadFromFile(ObjFilename); end; procedure TForm1.btnExitClick(Sender: TObject); begin {Frees objList (and everything in list) and exits} objList.Free; Close; end; initialization objList := TObjectList.Create; end. --------------------------------- UNIT2.PAS --------------------------------- unit Unit2; interface uses Classes; type TPlayer = class(TPersistent) private FName : string; FEmpireName : string; FWins : integer; FLosses : integer; FRanking : integer; public procedure ReadData(reader : TReader); dynamic; procedure WriteData(writer : TWriter); dynamic; published property Name : string read FName write FName; property EmpireName : string read FEmpireName write FEmpireName; property Wins : integer read FWins write FWins; property Losses : integer read FLosses write FLosses; property Ranking : integer read FRanking write FRanking; end; TObjectlist=class(TList) public destructor Destroy; override; procedure Clear; procedure SaveToStream(stream : TStream); procedure LoadFromStream(stream : TStream); procedure SaveToFile(const filename : string); procedure LoadFromFile(const filename : string); end; implementation uses SysUtils; {TPlayer} procedure TPlayer.ReadData(reader : TReader); begin with reader do begin Name := ReadString; EmpireName := ReadString; Wins := ReadInteger; Losses := ReadInteger; Ranking := ReadInteger; end; end; procedure TPlayer.WriteData(writer : Twriter); begin with writer do begin WriteString(Name); WriteString(EmpireName); WriteInteger(Wins); WriteInteger(Losses); WriteInteger(Ranking); end; end; {TObjectList} destructor TObjectList.Destroy; begin {deallocate objects in list before termination} Clear; inherited Destroy; end; procedure TObjectList.Clear; var i : integer; begin {This routine deallocates all resources inside this list} for i := 0 to Count - 1 do begin TObject(Items[0]).Free; Delete(0); end; end; procedure TObjectList.SaveToStream(stream : TStream); var writer : TWriter; i : integer; begin writer := TWriter.Create(stream, $ff); try with writer do begin {mark beginning of file and beginning of object list} WriteSignature; WriteListBegin; {loop through this list} for i := 0 to Count - 1 do begin {Store any TPersistent objects} if TObject(Items[i]) is TPersistent then begin WriteString(TPersistent(Items[i]).ClassName); {Call WriteData() for TPlayer objects} if (TPersistent(Items[i]) is TPlayer) then TPlayer(Items[i]).WriteData(writer); end; end; {mark end of object list} WriteListEnd; end; finally writer.Free; end; end; procedure TObjectList.LoadFromStream(stream : TStream); var reader : TReader; obj : TPersistent; ctype : TPersistentClass; cname : string; i : integer; begin reader:=TReader.Create(stream,$ff); try with reader do begin {read beginning of file and beginning of object list markers} ReadSignature; ReadListBegin; {loop through file list of objects} while not EndOfList do begin {Load ClassName and use it to get ClassType} cname := ReadString; ctype := GetClass(cname); if Assigned(ctype) then begin {"Assigned()" == " <> nil" but quicker} {If a ClassType was found, create an instance} obj := ctype.Create; try {if obj is a TPlayer, call its ReadData() method} if obj is TPlayer then TPlayer(obj).ReadData(reader); except obj.free; raise; end; {add object to this list} Add(obj); end; end; ReadListEnd; end; finally reader.Free; end; end; procedure TObjectList.SaveToFile(const filename : string); var stream : TFileStream; begin stream := TFileStream.Create(filename, fmCreate or fmOpenWrite); try SaveToStream(stream); finally stream.Free; end; end; procedure TObjectList.LoadFromFile(const filename : string); var stream : TFileStream; begin stream := TFileStream.Create(filename, fmOpenRead); try Clear; LoadFromStream(stream); finally stream.Free; end; end; initialization {register TPlayer class here when program begins} RegisterClass(TPlayer); end.